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Things, and it's christmas. can't i get that as a present? can't we just get them talking together? in any event, i don't think it's time for a preventative attack as yet. we need to figure out how to get china for strongly in the game, which we've talked about for a couple years. we still have a little bit of time before jong-un has time to militarize that nuclear weapon. i would say the next step, andrea, is a maritime blockade, actually shutting down the sea coasts of north korea. that will force thchina to real put pressure. i think that's the next step, some type of cyberactivity with the...

Administration. earlier this year, the president, as well as the secretary of state and hr mcmaster national security adviser seemed to be suggesting the u.s. was considering a preventative attack, one in which we might do a military strike even if we feel we are not in imminent danger. lately that message seems to be downplayed in favor of pressure. now we had recently the secretary of state saying recently that they were reaching out and three different channels with north korea and now the president seems to be undercutting it. >> what the president is doing. do you think they read this as ...

U.s. is considering a preventative attack. so that's certainly an issue that they would be concerned with. >> are you surprised by the rhetoric, the rhetoric from kim jong-un, for example, towards the united states right now and towards, specifically, the president? >> well, we have to keep in mind that north korea has always used very over the top language. they used very racist comments about president obama, very sexist comments about ambassador nikki haley, as well as the previous south korean president, park geun-hye. >> so you're not that surprised? >> it's, i think, in tune with what th...

Guam are allies will be met with a massive military response. is now the time for military action? are we on the cusp of military action? >> molly: secretary menaces comments very strong and resolute, but clearly in the context to a response to a north korean rate attack. that's consistent with other administration policies. that is different from wire without we were a few months ago with the president's comments and comments by national security advisor which seem to be suggesting a preventative attack and then officials were walking back those comments. although comments every strong, they'...

-- so often he's been talked about someone who is irrational. >> molly: many people said he was crazy like his father. he's a brutal, awful dictator, but is not crazy, nor was his father. we did studies on the father when i was in the government. many people have advocated a preventative attack reaven the we don't feel they're about to attack us we need to start a war to prevent a war based on the idea that he's crazy and he may wake up someday push the button. when i say despite him not being crazy how would you respond if we were to attack first most would say he knows he can't stand up to t...