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majority so now might north carolina lawmakers have a chance to rethink their stance on all of this. the question is, will they take it? that is the show for tonight. now it's time for the last word with ali velshi in for lawrence. >> they didn't take their last opportunity to rethink a bill they had a veto proof majority. on >> i loved your conversation with phillip atiba goff about minneapolis. an interesting point, if you're worried about police forces that are bad in america, minneapolis doesn't top the top 50. doesn't crack the top 50. but he said if you go three consent decrees...

opportunity to rethink a bill they had a veto proof majority. on y to>> another conversation with phillip atiba goff about minneapolis. an interesting point, if you worried about police forces that are bad in america, minneapolis doesn't top the top 50. doesn't crack the top 50. but he said if you go three consecutive degrees at a, time which is kind of roughly the average these days, there are very few under the trump administration at all because the trump administration simply didn't believe in that sort of thing. it's gonna take us decades or millennia to figure this out. he was ...

dealing with hamas, or getting the hostages home. what we are seeing now is not the best way to do that. >> ben rhodes, thank you for spending time with me tonight. that's our show for tonight. now the time is my last word with ali velshi. in for lawrence. >> i hope a lot of people listened to what been says. he's put a lot of thought into this. i want to continue this conversation in a little while with ayman -- criminal case of united states of america versus donald trump. the special counsel and his team are asking the supreme court to grant an expedited review of trump's claims t...

dealing with hamas, or getting the hostages home. what we are seeing now is not the best way to do that. >> ben rhodes, thank you for spending time with me tonight. that's our show for tonight. now the time is my last word with ali velshi. >> i hope a lot of people listen to what ben says. we'll continue this a little later. but you have a good evening, my friend. tonight the special counsel jack smith is once again making his case for the supreme court to weigh in on donald trump's claims of presidential immunity in the criminal case of united states of america versus donald trump...

we're live outside the federal courthouse on long island where he's scheduled to appear in just hours. also breaking this morning, we are hearing now from e. jean carroll for the first time since former president donald trump was found liable for sexually abusing and defaming the former magazine writer. a jury awarding carroll $5 million after a contentious civil trial, but today carroll says it was never about the money. >> i didn't even hear the money. this is not about the money. this is about getting my name back and that's what we accomplished. i'm overwhelmed with happiness f...