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Own story. insanity. chris, a radio host, former aid to chuck schumer, he joins us tonight. so, chris, i wonder, i mean, my primary interest in someone who has spent his life in the media. my jaw is almost open full time watching it. i wonder if the people who woo step forward and say you know what? we shouldn't throw allegations around prefaced with the phrase if true. if it isn't true we shouldn't be alleging it. is that fair? >> that is fair, frankly. i think that media outlets, when they get a story like this sensational story like, this they should try to confirm it before they run with i...

Own story. insanity. chris, a radio host, former aid to chuck schumer, he joins us tonight. so, chris, i wonder, i mean, my primary interest in someone who has spent his life in the media. my jaw is almost open full time watching it. i wonder if the people who woo step forward and say you know what? we shouldn't throw allegations around prefaced with the phrase if true. if it isn't true we shouldn't be alleging it. is that fair? >> that is fair, frankly. i think that media outlets, when they get a story like this sensational story like, this they should try to confirm it before they run with i...

If he does he does not recall who it would be what he told it to. that was not his primary interest. his primary interest was to do what he thought the campaign wanted him to do which was put russian officials together with the united states officials to work on some better relationship with russia. >> when was the last time you talked to joseph -- >> sorry. when's the last time he -- >> talked to -- >> hold on. let me try to think. you know, i don't know the answer to that. i know that he spoke to him i think it was on april 24th but i do not know if he talked to him after that. it's a great ...

>> there's probably a penalty for that although my primary interest now is just to force the department of justice and the fbi to answer this question, why do you continue to hide things from congress? why do you make it so hard to get things from us? not just in this instance, on the intel committee itself. again and again and again. they just can't have the attitude that we won't share this with the american people. but this is stuff we are going to keep to ourselves. that's an incredibly dangerous precedent. >> harris: when you talk about those text messages between the two people having an...

They were somewhere. what does this say to you about what game the fbi might be playing with all of us? >> well, i mean, first of all, i think 98% of the fbi agents are hard-working, very serious about enforcing the law. the people that we have always respected. but for some reason at the very top in the last few years, have you had a bunch of people who, frankly, have been running a corrupt operation. and. steve: why do you say corrupt? >> it's corrupt in the sense that first of all they are not obeying the law. their primary interest is not the law. when you have somebody say let's get toget...