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most notorious prisons where they had been held for 26 months. fattal's grandparents and cousin, perhaps just like, watching c thmpb n this time yesterday from their home in seattle. i want to you watch their reaction the second they first laid eyes on him. >> they emerged. the families are cheering. they're running down the steps. >> oh! >> flashing lights. >> how wonderful is that. what a moment for this family. like i am, waiting 26 months for this day to come. i have josh fattal's uncle back on the phone with me from seattle. fred, what a past 24 hours, huh? how are josh and shan...

course as i know you v and it is a fascinating read. one of the things that strikes me is that we are talking about two guys, very young guys, 23 and 30 years of age respectively, and speak to their youth, a, and b, what are they accused of doing? >> well, in the case of wad ramadan alwan, he is now 30 years old, but he has been at the business of terrorism for more than 10 years. since he was a teenager. and in his case, he was involved directly in the manufacture and the placement of ieds designed specifically to kill u.s. troops on roadsides. he bragged recently that he had in fac...

Jenna: we'd probably be the first ones up at that prison saying hey w they need to be treated. does larry have a point? >> justice ito in his dissenting opinion says the remedy is problem by problem. if we have a problem with the medical a facilities in our prison facility let's fix them. let's not release all the people, that's not the remedy. there are problems in our prison system but they should be fixed problem by problem, it's not just a mass release of people. >> somebody who needs an operation, should they have to wait a year, two years, somebody needs routine medical care. jenna: to t...

Increases. we are paying additional increases for our pension. we are paying an additional health insurance premiums. we've never disagreed to pay those increases. what we are basically losing is our collective rights on a local level across the state in every regard to how things are done in the work place. it's not about wages. it's not about benefits. it's about how we get to speak with our management teams and all of our labor leaders. >> steve, there are reports out there that the national guard has toured the facility where you work at, the state prison facility. what do you know about t...

Increases for our pension. we are paying an additional health insurance premiums. we've never disagreed to pay those increases. what we are basically losing is our collective rights on a local level across the state in every regard to how things are done in the work place. it's not about wages. it's not about benefits. it's about how we get to speak with our management teams and all of our labor leaders. >> steve, there are reports out there that the national guard has toured the facility where you work at, the state prison facility. what do you know about that? >> i know that the national gua...