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It's obvious. and it's going to go deeper and deeper. the more people who get in trublt, the more people are going to talk. the problem is that people may focus on clinton and think that's where it begins and it ends and that's definitely not what the case is. i think this is just indicative of what the larger case is. not just new york state, the prison systems, different prison systems, state, and even the federal system, needs a lot of overhaul, don. >> that's a scary prospect considering how these guys got out. and you're saying this is annish shy all across the country? >> many people are...

Throughout the united states. >> and inmates are very very clever as to huh they smuggle those drugs in. >> want to talk about that a little bit. deborah fashgeyerick, thank you. >> jeff dumas, former corrections sergeant at clinton correctional facility. thank you for being with us. what do you make of the investigation launched by the fbi the fact that there are drugs in the prison system. deborah and i were talking about a common problemen a lot of prison systems? >> yeah, it is. as far as the fbi probe. they can do what they want. they can investigate it. but as you just stated earlier, th...

>> obviously he will be interviewed and there will be a lot of soul searching with the prison system. i don't think it is just that prison. it is all through out the prison systems they need to look at. you have to start looking at could the same thing happen at another one of our prisons? they need to look systematically to see where the problems are. >> there is this bigger issue across our country of we have people who appoint these jobs holding people accountable in powerful positions. whether it is here in new york you and i live in jersey, it could be anywhere. >> you have to leave polit...

This appointment? when we get the answer to the question there will be answers to how this came down. >> we hope to get the answers. certainly more questions. >> rod wheeler former dc homicide detective and fox news c contributor. at the center of this is the guy who would want to led the prison. we haven't heard his name very much in all of this. at least not among all of those reporters in the news conference with the governor. my hand would have been in the air i am sure he probably would have blown me off. >> obviously he will be interviewed and there will be a lot of soul searching with t...

Resources, most in juvenile facilities in a prison systems. how are we going to benefit from that? meaning what i'm trying to say is a lot of resources incarcerated. poverty is doing what it do so we have to switch it incarcerate poverty and free the resource talking about resources that did everything that our community suffered there. from real career training forget job training. we need career training from how to be in a relationship with fellow women and young men. >> reporter: are you guys planning on obeying the sur few tonight at 10:00 p.m.? >> yes. we're going to do it. >> we don't w...