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Communications back and forth as we are having right now between isis and people in this country without access. i know that some libitarians will say this is a privacy issue. the fourth amendment does allow for reasonable searches and seizures. if they get a court order it has to be a reasonable way and people work this out, a way where these encryption methods cannot be used to stop the fbi or justice department. >> thank you, sir. >> thank you. a former member of the homeland security department analytic red cell unit and author of "code of conduct." good to see you. you know director a b...

Communications back and forth as we are having right now between isis and people in this country without access. i know that some libitarians will say this is a privacy issue. the fourth amendment does allow for reasonable searches and seizures. if they get a court order it has to be a reasonable way and people work this out, a way where these encryption methods cannot be used to stop the fbi or justice department. >> thank you, sir. >> thank you. a former member of the homeland security department analytic red cell unit and author of "code of conduct." good to see you. you know director a b...

Then there is a second issue that is really complicated and difficult and we're a long way from consensus and that's privacy. all of us have our information up there in the cloud. all of us have entitled to privacy. but how you parse that out, that will really be and ongoing conversation. i see us having the potential to get to yes on the security issue and i think we have to keep working on the privacy issue. >> congressman, we appreciate it. thank you so much. and up next the key question today's glitches have many of us asking. has america become too reliant on technology? we'll take on t...

Let's talk about the politics of this situation now. joining me is republican political strategist brian morgan stern and news day columnist, ellis hen can. let me start with you, ellis. rand paul threatening to filibuster. is part of this showboating for his presidential campaign or what's really going on here? >> showboating or being political. what we expect for those running from president. he is betting big on it. when rand began the presidential race he was showing a more moderate side. he wasn't going to be his father ron paul but now he does seem to be betting heavily on the privacy is...

Warrant. >> reporter: even drawing an eye roll from former presidential candidate lindsey graham. now comes this eye-brow raising ad from a super pac supporting poll. >> sunday, sunday, sunday get ready, america, senator rand paul. versus barack obama! >> reporter: the thing is the privacy issue has been addressed in this bipartisan bill that's already passed the house. it takes the bulk phone data collection out of the hands of the federal government and puts it with the phone companies. there are only about three or four votes needed in the senate to pass that bill. it's unclear if that will...