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Readers on monday. "we have made one massive mistake. i have thought about it for nearly three solid days and i've run out of ways to kick myself about it. how did it never occur to any of us? how? how could we have all blown it? that mistake was someone familiar with the transgender community should have read caleb's football draft. this never occurred to us. nobody ever brought it up." simmons also declined to be here today. the controversy had many of us in the newsroom this week asking what ethical questions can those of us in the media take away, if any? here with me now to discuss in no,...

Saying, said that it has provoked a debate that has been useful in this country. and what snowden said to me was, i've brought the american public to the table. and he also said, if in fact he's smeared and his reputation is ruined, he said, if i end up in a ditch at the end of the day and reform comes out of this, it will be worth of it. >> what mike rogers says, he says if you take a look at the stuff snowden stole, some of it does deal with the privacy rights of the american public. but most of it, he says, deals with major military-related issues that only a country like russia or china ...

Did. i've always gone back to anybody that -- the people that care the most about this privacy issue and what the nsa was doing, i don't know there was anything the president could announce short of halting the program completely that was going to satisfy some folks there. the fact -- if you look at it through the idea of okay, is he open to more change, he made that clear. but this speech is not a definitive speech of anything. he announced a lot more steps of what they are going to do next than he did of actually reforms. let's have this review process and figure this out and have this revie...

Instrumental in thwarting terror attacks but we have heard no specifics. a lot of people feel if there were these stories to tell it would behoove them to declassify them in order to make their case. that hasn't been done to a lot of people's satisfaction. also city would mention the privacy issue in this cuts both ways. you have got libertarians fired up on this as well as people in the soros cam. >> you have got republicans and democrats jumping in and i suspect a number of them for political purposes looking at which way the public opinion is flowing at this point. to your point it would be...

Citizens. there has been a lot of pushback in france and spain where they don't want this surveillance over their phone calls. the second would be to appoint an advocate for privacy issues for fisa. it seems like the, the fisa board's job to determine whether the evidence outweighs any privacy issue. the third one is that the data should be held by the phone companies instead this multi-billion dollar building that is built with taxpayer dollars in utah. >> the third point you raids, the idea what we are doing do is stop having the nsa hold this meta data and put it in the hand of private thir...