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Talking about making misery a competition with guest Daniela Taplin Lundberg.

That's also my issue with the whole privilege discourse as well, that it leaves it at this institutional level so, that if people were just nicer work just own their privilege and treat people better at that individual level that we would be doing a whole lot better. and i actually think that that leaves us without a pathway forward in terms of institutional -- making -- >> but the point -- >> this feels to me like -- elon, this is part of the angst, is that we lack a certain kind of vocabulary, right? for example, black on black crime is the easy thing to say because we all have some standard...