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Intelligence and law enforcement agencies. >> yeah. well, look, someone like sue gordon who had decades of the intelligence community, i hadn't the slightest idea what her politics are. and i obviously overlapped with her for eight years. and the idea that the intelligence community were career people. and the way in which the meeting could function, nicole, as you know, you go in a situation room, the intelligence kick it off by telling you what the status of a situation is. and then the policymakers debate what to do. in other words, they're responsible for the facts and the analysis and the...

Dial. talk about the defamation from professionals in our intelligence and law enforcement agency. >> someone like sue gordon had who decades in the intelligence agency, i haven't the slightest idea what her politics are. and i overlapped with her for eight years. the reality is the intelligence community generally were career people. people who knew the business of intelligence. and the way in which the meeting would function, nicolle, you know, you go in the situation room and intelligence people kick it off by telling you what the status of a situation is and policymakers debate what to do....