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Lawyer for the office of the presidency, not for the president. >> right. >> but he does have legitimate executive privilege issues that he could raise, lawyer/client, i guess privilege issues. and some questions. but we he knows a lot about what was going on and he was in a lot of these meetings. >> yeah, andrea, i think we'll know the real impact of pat cipollone's testimony later today when we can figure out or hear from the committee the degree to which he answered their questions and either corroborated or didn't corroborate what we heard recently from cassidy hutchinson. or will he invok...

Deal with the committee for a transcribed interview behind closed doors but it's happening this friday. oh, and it's going to be on video. a lawyer is telling cnn the interview will be limited to specific topics to avoid privilege issues. he was of course the white house counsel. the committee has called him, quote, uniquely positioned to testify. i mean, the understatement of the year. think of what he knows. think about how many times you out there even heard his name from other witnesses during these hearings. >> mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, please make sure we don't go up...

Shock and surprise. at lindsey graham. is making history. making history by getting a grand jury subpoena. >> no shock, no surprise. although this is going to get complicated. we got a lot of issues here as the former prosecutor was delineating. you got some privilege issues. you've got some work product issues. and the other thing to remember here is, lawrence, this is a special grand jury. this is not a regular grand jury this. is a special grand jury that can set a longer than a typical grand jury that just sits the term of a court. the special grand jury can subpoena witnesses, but interes...

Something about discussing direct conversation with the president and that it would avoid specific topics of privilege issues. when i was saying that you were like what does that mean? >> you could read my body language there. let me try to translate this. they're trying to reach a negotiated resolution where they ask pat cipollone some questions but not others. but if they're going to say you don't have to answer anything that might involve executive privilege that means they're not going to ask him about what conversations did you, donald trump, have with pat cipollone. and by the way let's ...

Transcribed interview with the january 6 committee, probably limited to specific topics to avoid privilege issues. this according to a source familiar with his thinking. but look, whether any testimony would be live or taped remains to be seen. but he could be in-creditbly enlightening and shed more information on what happened in the days leading up to the insurrection and what happened that day with president trump, with then chief of staff mark meadows and of course this all comes after that bombshell testimony by that former white house aide cassidy hutchinson who recalled several stories ...