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Half of his restaurants had wage an hour violations that violated the laws of the united states. you think that's pro-worker? >> i think it's pro-worker that he cares about the cashier the same way as he cares about the businessowner. people have come out and said this man is someone who has treated me fairly -- >> you think it's pro-worker to have a salary every year that is -- that his weekly paycheck, his weekly paycheck equals the average yearly paycheck of his workers and he's against a minimum wage increase? you think that is pro-worker? i'm sorry. i've never heard of that. >> you're mak...

They might not be good jobs, but they're jobs, right? >> they're job killers. they're job killers. for every two jobs they create, they are killing other jobs, more jobs, and the jobs they create -- >> why don't you apply the same wrath to cosk costco or other s? is it because they're pro-union or they might have political views that mirror your own? >> would you say, you know what? i'm pro-choice on savings? >> i'm pro-worker and i'm pro-dignity when it comes to work, and i'm pro-immigrant. >> walmart would bring jobs. >> just because it's a job doesn't mean it's a good job, and we need jobs ...

Address. joining me to talk about what we can expect tonight, robert reich, former secretary of labor in the clinton administration. he's the author of "aftershock: the next economy in america's future." the documentary "inequality" for all is available on itunes. i was talking to sherrod brown, axelrod at the top of the show. there's a huge debate in the party about progressive populism, about a more pro worker, pro labor agenda combatting inequality head. on. sometimes i feel like that's where the president is and then i hear david axelrod talking about job training and skills mismatch. and ...

Mike emanuel, thanks. >> reporter: thank you, jon. jenna: we're following breaking developments in michigan where governor rick snyder signed two bills into law last night making michigan the 24th right-to-work state. the laws ban unions requiring workers to pay dues or when hired pay equivalent of the dues. here is governor snyder from a news conference last night. >> i view this as an opportunity to stand up for michigan's workers, to be pro-worker, to say here opportunity to give workers a choice, the freedom to choose who they associate with and whether they pay financial dollars to organi...

This fight tonight. bob king is president of the united autoworkers. scott hagerstrom is michigan state director for americans for prosperity. let me show you what the governor said earlier today when he was a guest on "andrea mitchell reports." >> the way i viewed it, it's on the table, it's a hot issue. let's show some leadership, so i stepped up to say when i review it, i think it's a good thing. it's about being pro-worker, giving freedom of choice to workers. secondly it's about economy development. we will get more and better jobs coming to michigan because we're going to be more competi...