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Few moments ago. it says quote the president made clear to the leaders he will not negotiate over the need for congress to act to reopen the government or to raise the debt limit to pay the bills congress already incurred. the president is basically making clear what he made clear earlier today on an interview on cnbc he will not negotiate any deal that passes a temporary spending bill and signs it into law that includes any kind of anti obamacare provisions. that is a nonstarter still with this white house. anderson, it took them all about an hour to essentially say no to each other and we're...

States ran on obama care and the american people voted on this. i know house republicans point to polls show it's unpopular but this president wasn't elected, the presidential candidate boasted to obama care lost. isn't there losers and winners, don't you have to take the losses and move on? >> anderson, when this bill was originally passed, obamacare, it was passed in a lame-duck session with 80 defeated politicians with no accountability back to the voters. there were problems and glitches in the bill and the president has rightfully postponed some of the provisions of obama care because the...

>> reporter: i think what we'll expect to hear the president say is the shut down has to end and talk about what is happening on october 17th, anderson, when the nation hits the debt ceiling and goes into default. he'll talk how that might freeze up credit for companies around the country harkening back to what happened to the country when the financial crisis hit in 2008. i think we'll hear the president say that and he made the comment today in the interview with cnbc that wall street has to worry this time. this is not like last time around or past crisis in this town, that there is really ...

Anderson, i do think they are the makings of a negotiation here a glimmer of it at least. if the president said look, you agree the debt ceiling, we go forward on that, we don't dismantle obama care, i'll give you a two week extension on the continuing resolution, and if we don't reach a reasonable settlement, we keep fighting on that but take default off the table and take dismantling health care off the table, then sit down and talk about a range of things. >> gloria, go ahead. >> once they, you know, get past the funding of the government, i also think that the administration might be open ...

>> the problem right now is each side is demanding the unconditional surrenderer. neither side will bow to that if they can help it. the repun g -- republicans are likely to track. don't you guys think we're into next week? >> i do. and i think that eventually, one way out of this might be to wrap it all into the question of the debt ceiling and find someway to raise the debt ceiling and avert armageddon on that and temporary fund the government while they work out the rest of this, the rest of this stuff. >> all right. >> it's one negotiation instead of two but the question, anderson, the 20 ...