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So i expect that he's got a state of the union next week and this will be a part of that as well. and it should be. this is a really serious thing. i spent my life writing about politics, involved in politics. so it's a weird thing for me to say. but sometimes you have to be -- you have to sort of set the politics aside. this is one of those issues. and however the politics nets out for biden, what you sense from him is that he understands the gravity of this moment and the historical import of this moment and he's proceeding apace, deliberately and i think wisely to try and confront the momen...

So it's a weird thing for me to say. but sometimes you have to be -- you have to sort of set the politics aside. this is one of those issues. and however the politics nets out for biden, what you sense from him is that he understands the gravity of this moment and the historical import of this moment and he's proceeding apace, deliberately and i think wisely to try and confront the moment. >> well, politics aside. but you know politics, they're always at play here at home. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell is blaming weakness by the biden administration for russia's invasion of ukraine. h...

Conversations continue on the periphery. i think there is a lot of agreement that investigations-wise, there's coordination, those proceeding apace. how long can it continue with these conversations on the sidelines before it begins to distract from that? >> i think not much longer. i think the way that pelosi is playing this, it makes sense. i think she's trying to wait out the mueller report. i think she's trying to get a sense of what the american people are pushing for, what congress people are pushing for. but at some point she's going to have to lean on this, and i think we're rapidly ap...

You? >> yeah, so, the timing is still a bit in question here because it does imply that perhaps some of this started before the summit, right? so what exactly does that mean? i think you have to sort of take that along the same lines as everything else, which is they are continuing to advance their capabilities regardless of the fact that diplomacy is underway. and that until we actually have a real agreement from the north koreans to stop and start rolling back their program, they're going to keep proceeding apace. >> here's what i don't understand. it's not the united states versus north kor...

Apparently from her ruling, it appears that stone is somehow involved in a book that is coming out shortly, and the judge was never advised of that book and the book may somehow violate the judge's gag order that stone can't make public comments about the case. i don't know. we'll find out more on monday, when new filings are due to address that issue with the gag order and roger stone's case. that order, again, just coming out late tonight, just as i sat down here tonight. so all of these legal cases are proceeding apace. and i actually want to put one other thing on your radar in terms of wh...