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Obstruction of an official proceeding charge. that's one of the bread and butter charges of these january 6th cases. >> and perhaps the most significant. if that's what they charge him with. they're charging the former president with obstructing the congressional vote count that happened on january 6th. that's up to 20 years. that's a very significant charge. >> this will be brought in d.c. what is different about a d.c. jury pool than a south florida jury pool, and can donald trump argue that this jury pool in d.c. couldn't possibly be fair to him? >> well, look, this jury pool, you're asking...

Case, of course seditious conspiracy is the most serious charge that carries up to 20 years behind bars if convicted. but even if we don't get a conviction or even a verdict, a unanimous verdict on all of these charges, can you remind us what the different charges are that we'll be listening to hear verdicts on? >> yeah, you know, the obstruction of an official proceeding charge has the same exposure, criminal exposure for a lot of the defendants, and i think that's been generally a lot easier of a charge for jurors to decide. remember, in that first oath keepers trial that we saw back in the ...

Me former deputy airy deputy cistern general. also with us, we'll carry all, rmer acting u.s. solicitor general. what is your sense of the potential importance of criminal referrals that the committee might issue? >> well, lawrence, you've been talking about this major announcement from donald trump this morning, and i will just say there's a good chance that after these referrals that we're gonna see a donald trump digital trading card convicting him behind bars, because i do think that's where this referral is going to go. it's going to be, to say that [inaudible] he should be indicted, as a...

From january 6th have been charged under that specific felony statute. obstruction of an official proceeding. that specific statute, obstruction of an official proceeding, it's also been conceived by many legal experts as one of the most likely felony charges that could be brought against donald trump himself if he were ever to be charged personally. in connection with january 6th attack. that's why it's worth memorizing that phrase. obstruction of an official proceeding. it's worth keeping an eye on that as a specific felony charge. which has been used hundreds of times and has been used to g...