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How do you defend the fact that gordon sondland, the point man on ukraine, the shadow ukraine policy is stating according to vindman, there needs to me a quid pro quo. >> whenever faced with that question or asked, look, there is evidence piling up that is showing there were quid pro quos, multiple ones, that is what taylor testified to and then republicans say that is not a quid pro quo. i don't see a quid pro quo in that. or they just continue to attack the democratic process, the process that democrats are using. they don't really dive into the substance and they say that they believe that ...

Legitimacy around this process by saying they're going to bring it to a vote on the floor. they can't fix it. the process is broken. >> a due process starts at the beginning. it doesn't affirm a sham investigation all the way through. if you were in the legal term, it would be the fruit from the poisonous tree. it would be a mistrial. >> that's the process argument. democrats are giving them some of what they have long been demanding in this resolution tomorrow. the intelligence committee will hold open hearings. the republicans can request witnesses and issue subpoenas. the democrats have to ...

Johnson, "the washington post" piece he is quoted saying i think this was improper behavior, however, i don't believe it's impeachable. the simple fact the president's defenders have lost the process argument. what they have tried to say is that the process is flawed. >> that the democrats have proceeded by in a manner that violates the constitution, whatever, which is nonsense, foolish, illegally, we know that now that they're losing that argument and we are going to see public hearings. what they're saying is even assuming the president committed this conduct or even assuming it happened, it...

About anything going on, our members talking about what is going on. how bad it has gotten today, i went to view the transcripts and things i'm entitled to view under the terms of the house and told i could not do that. i will argue the substance and talk about bill taylor having fore hand information he takes as first-hand information and the fact i've seen the transcript and there is no quid quo pro. we'll talk about the fact that the ukrainians didn't know any of the discussions were taking place until article in late august they found out it was even something going on. let's go back to th...

It's so shocking. >> what can you tell us about the process argument that erupted in the deposition today, congressman swalwell apparently in a clash with republican mark meadows that apparently forced chairman schiff to adjust the way the proceeding was going on? >> all i can tell you is i can't discuss the questions that were asked or the answers that were provided by the witness, but there has been a pattern of disruption by the republicans throughout the proceedings. first they claimed they weren't allowed to participate, but of course they had exactly the same amount of time as the democr...