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Questions about the -- >> i disagree with your conclusion. it's a conclusion, not a -- >> my english teacher says you have a conclusion. if you want to interview yourself, go right ahead. >> why don't you want to answer the question. is it okay for the president -- >> it's not a question. >> why don't you want to do an interview instead of interviewing yourself? >> the president asked on the white house lawn -- >> will you answer my question? >> i guess that's the answer. >> if you don't want to interview me, then interview yourself. >> i haven't heard logic like that since second grade. >> i ...

Legal. now this is a process argument. and any time you're arguing about process, you are generally not winning, but that is where republicans really are. they are fully in a process argument. pelosi is trying to take a little bit of that away from them. i do think that they want to argue on that for the gop does, because the stubstance as we're laying out with vindman. >> process plus character assassination. julie pace and ann guerin. we'll speak to a democratic congressman about what could be the explosive sworn testimony from colonel alexander vindman. also moments from the opening bel...

Heard for the first time from someone who was actually listening in on the controversial phone conversation july 25th between the president of the united states and the president of ukraine. how significant is that? >> well, i think it is very significant for a couple of reasons. one, i mean it takes another process argument off the table for republicans. they've said a lot of the witnesses are just -- it is hearsay, they don't necessarily know what they're talking about. this is someone who was on the call, who heard the president speaking to the ukrainian president and after the fact aired t...

Process argument. with more testimony like this republicans don't want to touch the substance here, do they? >> they don't. i don't share your view on the this that somehow the dam is going to break. i think the arguments will shift as they have to shift. the republicans will stand with donald trump. why? not because of the evidence but because he has a 90% approval rating among republicans. that's what's driving this. unless that number starts eroding they will continue to push back and whatever way they have to. and yes, it was the process now nancy pelosi will have a vote. they're mad about...

See much of that in the senate. i would echo what bob costa was saying earlier on, republican senate as a whole, not speaking for all of them, but the vast majority are deeply, deeply uncomfortable with the substance of what's happened here and that's why you saw that very timid resolution last week. the backstory to that was lindsey graham wanted to put out a fairly bombastic letter to nancy pelosi that would have basically been a middle finger, sign of solidarity, we're not going to go down this impeachment route. he got blown right back at the republican lunch when he pitched it. they thoug...