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Is now thinking get away with something in those transactions with foreign leaders desperate to save -- they're being patriotic. they're saving their country from the russian tanks. what's he doing? what's our guy doing? >> chris, you use the word shakedown. that's what was going on here. and let me try to break it down in laymans terms for people because we hear contingent foreign aid and quid pro quo, and people tend to get lost in that kind of verbiage, so now i think the republicans are pivoting. why because the process argument is falling by the wayside, the no quid pro quo argument is de...

Betraying the national security interests of the united states and undermining the rule of law, and instead they're talking about these process arguments just because they're desperate not to focus on the facts because they have no argument. it's so shocking. >> what can you tell us about the process argument that erupted in the deposition today, congressman swalwell apparently in a clash with republican mark meadows that apparently forced chairman schiff to adjust the way the proceeding was going on. >> all i can tell you is i can't discuss the questions that were asked or the answers that we...

Concerned about the vote itself. it isn't particularly high, but the white house is concerned about something that i think ned was just alluding to there which was the degree of strength and vociferousness of republican defense of the president. i think there will be zero republican votes for this tomorrow, there might be potentially one or two, but we think probably zero, the president wants to see a little more than that from his republican defenders in congress, and he really feels like republicans should be going out and saying that the president did nothing wrong, period, full stop, and t...

And the worst of these arguments is, well, you see, there's no problem here because, after all, the aid was delivered, which is a classic coming from this administration, which is, we tried to break the law, but somehow, we failed, we were obstructed in our design -- >> so that means it's okay. >> so that's okay. it's like trump's meeting in the trump tower in 2016 or the failure to fire don mcgahn at the beginning of the mueller investigation, or now the fact that they sort of got caught trying to hold up the aid and a bunch of republican senators objected, so they said, okay, we're going to ...

Fact this is not secondhand information. he was on the call. now we know firsthand the information that we all guessed for a while that trump admitted out loud as did the chief of staff. we have somebody on the call testifying about it. it will be a difficult witness to try to impeach. they'll call an partisan or radical. like bill taylor. that dog ain't going to hunt. >> they run out of gas on this one. president trump continues to say his call was perfect. now he says he wants republicans to focus on that not just the process argument. with more testimony like this republicans don't want to ...