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Five years in combat, forced -- told we don't need a lawyer, the fbi does not believe he lied, and he was charged with lying anyway because he is bankrupt, can't write it, threatening his kid. >> liz's classic entrapment, sean. if you listen to the testimony of the two fbi agents, who don't think he was lying, if you'd think about what we know about mccabe, saying, you don't need a lawyer, this is an innocuous discussion, they trap him in a process crime. sean, everybody watching this show right now could be trapped in a process crime. i don't care how much of a boy scout you have been. everyb...

If mueller had said nothing, right, general flynn was going to get a no jail sentence. he committed a process crime which has sentencing guidelines of 0 to 6 months but he is a first offender and on the positive side of the ledger he has a 30-year history of courageous decorated service to the united states. there is not a federal judge in america that was going to put him in jail. what does mueller do? mueller files a cooperation motion saying he has provided substantial assistance to our investigation and what is the result? mueller asked for what the judge is going to do anyway. and then wh...

Investigation to have credibility. howie: what do you make of some conservative commentators including here on fox saying while lying to investigators is a process crime, there is no other lying crime. richard: in mike flynn's case he has to be held to a higher standard. he's going to be national security advisor to the president of the united states of america which is one of the highest positions in our government. he lied to the fbi and he lied to the vice president. it's disheartening to see conservative commentators' say that. he belongs behind bars for that. howie: democrats are accused ...

Process crime, like when the fbi shows up and you talk to the fbi and get tripped up and make a statement that is contradictory to a statement you made before and talking to the fbi. instead, what happened with michael cohen's he went with a prepared statement to both the senate intelligence committee and the house committee making false statements. he put those statements on the record, not getting tripped up but rather premeditated acts of falsehood. >> arthel: so there is a warning, do not lie to congress. do the democrats run the risk of over reaching? meaning, with all the focus on the ru...

Investigation to have credibility. howie: what do you make of some conservative commentators including here on fox saying while lying to investigators is a process crime, there is no other lying crime. richard: in mike flynn's case he has to be held to a higher standard. he's going to be national security advisor to the president of the united states of america which is one of the highest positions in our government. he lied to the fbi and he lied to the vice president. it's disheartening to see conservative commentators' say that. he belongs behind bars for that. howie: democrats are accused ...