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That communication continue and what we will learn from this. >> not just flynn's time in the white house and after, but before flynn was in the white house. when he entered this plea deal, he was the first person that mueller was able to grab who had connections to the campaign, the transition, and the white house. this is what i think people have forgotten because of course what mike flynn pleaed to is lying to the fbi. a process crime. that's all that mueller has. it could be all he has. there is a lot of other connections that flynn has that mueller could have been exploiting. we will find...

Are the things of two-bit criminals. >> does it matter at all that this is being done out on the open on twitter versus behind closed doors? >> not at all. the statute is very clear and same with the obstruction of justice ones. whether you do it openly or quietly, overtly, either way, it is a crime. beyond the fact it is a crime or not, we should think about the kind of consequences for the house investigations come january and then even the potential for impeachment. whether or not you want to have impeachment or not, that's a tough question. but i think here, given what the president has be...

Rep rep repercussions of that plea may be coming for weeks or months. political analyst joins me now. lying to congress is just a process crime, he says i would like to ask your view of that as a lawyer. of course, it raises the question, what can the fbi or congress do if witnesses in sworn testimony don't tell them the truth? >> they have enormous power, law enforcement authorities do, when witnesses lie in investigations. and, you know, if you look at white collar crime in general, the trump administration is now experiencing something that lawyers have known for a long time. sometimes it's...

The wheels of government will come to a halt while the nation honors the late 41st president. the special counsel investigation, however, does not take holidays. it moves on. so much to talk about, particularly after developments last week. senior political analyst for cnn ron brownstein, cnn legal analyst shan wu. if i could begin with you, shan. this is as much a public messaging campaign as it is a legal one because with each development, you have the president and his allies attacking the substance of it. shan, they are calling what cohen pled guilty to simply a process crime, lying to the...

Weeks ago. what people want to know is his son somebody does in the ground, there is transparency. i think the number one thing -- the reason why his numbers are so poor at almost every poll, harris, is because he almost looks like he's playing a game. he's blackmailing people into saying things and doing things. because a scummy part of the past. >> harris: process crime. >> matt: i don't want to condone that. >> there might be something there. he might have something. things are starting to seem a little weird. uno else who might have customer can i have something on the dossier. i hope he d...