that communication continue and what we will learn from this. >> not just flynn's time in the white house and after, but before flynn was in the white house. when he entered this plea deal, he was the first person that mueller was able to grab who had connections to the campaign, the transition, and the white house. this is what i think people have forgotten because of course what mike flynn pleaed to is lying to the fbi. a process crime. that's all that mueller has. it could be all he has. there is a lot of other connections that flynn has that mueller could have been exploiting. we will find out hopefully a little more about whether or not he actually had the goods or not. >> we learned in these cases, mueller gets you on the process question and tries to bring you in and tells you here's what i know. how long of a sentence would you like? let's talk. >> that's the value of this filing on friday. a good rule of thumb is nobody know what is mueller knows.