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Mostly for a counterintelligence investigation alleging that donald trump worked with putin finish. paul: right. >> -- to steal the election. i think it's kind of outrageous. we have no evidence of that, and people are charged with crimes that occurred after this began on process crimes. so, yes, if you want to stipulate that roger stone was sleazy, that campaigns -- paul: and he lied. >> but we're going to have the whole legitimacy of the election questioned? i think this is another reason the special counsel should wrap up his investigation. no prosecutor, order power in prosecutor would kee...

To launch a dilating and improper and illegitimate investigation of donald trump and now his long-time friend and ally robert mueller is pretty h much doing the same. these are process crimes. but out indictment of roger stone only shows today that mueller has failed to meet his mandate. no one has been charged with a c crime for which mueller was appointed. >> sean: you know, professor dershowitz, you talk about the criminalizing of political differences here. every one of those people i mentioned and gregg just mentioned are guilty of the exact same thing that they charged roger stone with. ...

>> they want to get all these trump guys for lying and process crimes, lying to investigators. how about the fbi, rosenstein, comey, all of the rest of them lying to the fisa court. as each of these fisa warrants, to spy on the trump campaign, were renewed. those are lies, too. but none of that, being investigated. >> shannon: that follows to jason's, to his point, capri, how do you explain that? >> maybe the trump justice department is actually doing their job. previously, what we have seen, is folks, in the obama administration, maybe not going through with following up, for example on those...

This is for people who dealt with stone during the 2016 campaign? >> well, people have to have some concern but the real question is, i think, is the president. and i don't think the president has to have any concern from this case because i agree with rudy giuliani and jay sekelo. the indictment does not charge collusion, does not charge conspiracy and every alleged act in it took place a after bob mueller was appointed. they're what's called process crimes. they have nothing to do with collusion, with the russians or the underlying substantive offense. once again, i'm sorry for repeating but...

Improper and illegitimate investigation of donald trump and now his long-time friend and ally robert mueller is pretty much doing the same. these are process crimes. but out indictment of roger stone only shows today that mueller has failed to meet his mandate. no one has been charged with a crime for which mueller was appointed. >> sean: you know, professor dershowitz, you talk about the criminalizing of political differences here. every one of those people i mentioned and gregg just mentioned are guilty of the exact same thing that they charged roger stone with. if we're going to arrest one ...