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Witnesses will make all the difference. when you look at lieutenant vindman and he will be there, fully decorated, raising his hand telling the truth, they are not challenging on substance but on process and that's a loser argument. chris: you get the final word. >> process matters, nixon went down because the process was fair. they won't allow any of the rights granted to president clinton during impeachment or president nixon during his impeachment, i love the fact that the democrats are now crying and democratic administration did nothing to send lethal aid to ukraine, they didn't want u.s....

Witnesses will make all the difference. when you look at lieutenant vindman and he will be there, fully decorated, raising his hand telling the truth, they are not challenging on substance but on process and that's a loser argument. chris: you get the final word. >> process matters, nixon went down because the process was fair. they won't allow any of the rights granted to president clinton during impeachment or president nixon during his impeachment, i love the fact that the democrats are now crying and democratic administration did nothing to send lethal aid to ukraine, they didn't want u.s....

Witnesses will make all the difference. when you look at lieutenant vindman and he will be there, fully decorated, raising his hand telling the truth, they are not challenging on substance but on process and that's a loser argument. chris: you get the final word. >> process matters, nixon went down because the process was fair. they won't allow any of the rights granted to president clinton during impeachment or president nixon during his impeachment, i love the fact that the democrats are now crying and democratic administration did nothing to send lethal aid to ukraine, they didn't want u.s....

This episode of moms was all about immigrant moms. moms who understand what that means to become an american. often immigrants who come here legally and go through this process are some of the best americans. they don't take it for granted. they understand what it is like to not be an american and what a blessing it is to be an american. i have to tell you, i love this show. this is my favorite episode. dear to my heart as the daughter of an immigrant. but it really is a reminder to all of us that, you know, citizenship matters and process matters. we hear a lot about process these days in the...

And the texts that occurred at the time, so there's your best evidence. arthel: okay. >> but still the process matters, look, you can -- you can spin this any way you want. arthel: i'm not spinning, i'm asking questions and the next question i have for you is can the state department once again ban or prevent ambassador from testifying? >> well, they can insist on process being followed, again, process matters. arthel: right. being subpoenaed by the committee that has the power to subpoena him and compel him to testify, that's what's happening. that's the process. >> but there's a process for ...