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Jones' objection and maybe you think that we should have listened to bob jones's objections. >> no. it's not a matter -- that's a sort of process question. does every objection that claims to be a religious objection deserve the same accommodation? no. we think we should be able to talk about the issues on merits and we're happy to do so. i don't think taking the view we have, that having to provide sterilization and to support sterilization as a part of not what is a health care service but as a broader lifestyle choice, that as you say, the larger culture is moving toward but that even the o...

Of these issues in turn, but one more process question about just the campaign. you said in your press conference last night that you want to make this a definitional campaign to disqualify romney in the minds of conservatives. what specifically do you mean and how do you do that? >> well, i think if you look at his record as governor, it's very clear. he was proabortion and progun control and protax increase, and ended up third from the bottom in job creation, and 48,000 manufacturing jobs left because the combination of romneycare and tax increases made him a very weak governor in terms of j...

More process question about just the campaign. you said in your press conference last night that you want to make this a definitional campaign to disqualify romney in the minds of conservatives. what specifically do you mean and how do you do that? >> well, i think if you look at his record as governor, it's very clear. he was proabortion and progun control and protax increase, and ended up third from the bottom in job creation, and 48,000 manufacturing jobs left because the combination of romneycare and tax increases made him a very weak governor in terms of job creation. the challenge is to ...

So i think that there are very large issues at stake, and my goal is to communicate those issues and get them out there. >> i want to come back to each of these issues in turn, but one more process question about just the campaign. you said in your press conference last night that you want to make this a definitional campaign to disqualify romney in the minds of conservatives. what specifically do you mean and how do you do that? >> well, i think if you look at his record as governor, it's very clear. he was proabortion and progun control and protax increase, and ended up third from the bottom...

>> greg: # in his speeches he is constantly saying how bad things are. reinforcing -- >> dana: one thing -- i want to get you in on this. the strategy is working in terms of running against congress. we have polls from the last week, december 18, that the approval rating for congress is at 11%. but once the presidential race is enjoying, whoever the republican nominee will be is not a member of congress. >> eric: you're right. >> bob: let me say a process question. the country is not paying attention to the general election race. process question is what junkies pay attention to. obama people,...