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Only been strengthened by watching what happened today and some of the other dealings we've had with the senate judiciary committee. he's not going to do anything like this political theater we saw without an fbi investigation. >> the judge called this process a circus, saying that allegations against him were a political hit. i mean, is there any truth to that? what is your response to that? >> you know, i mean, i heard you talking about it earlier. if this is some sort of democratic conspiracy, it seems like somebody forgot to clue in debbie ramirez and probably christine ford, as well. debb...

Can. we have directly opposite testimony from dr. ford and judge kavanaugh. we want to get as much of that detail from the witnesses that were there. i hope there's no restrictions on who the fbi can interview. as you know, the start to interview process will lead to other people they want to talk to. so there should be no restrictions placed on the fbi doing their background check as it relates to this particular accusation or the other two accusations. >> let's take a listen together to what senator flake said. this will air in an interview tonight, so here it is. >> i have to say that when ...

Interaction with some of the members was a little too sharp. >> i'd like to get your reaction, sir, to his interpretation of brett kavanaugh's testimony on thursday there. but perhaps even more importantly what you make of his last-minute decision to call for an investigation. >> first, i respect senator flake and i'm pleased that he was able to at least get this pause so we can get the investigation. his expression about judge kavanaugh, judge kavanaugh has every right to express his passion on his beliefs, but where he crossed the line is when he accused this as being a partisan issue of a c...

Hillary clinton. i found that bizarre, but we hardly need somebody on the supreme court who has these conspiracy theory notions. >> joining me now is equal rights attorney tamara holder and former u.s. attorney and msnbc contributor barbara quaid. he was calling this whole process a circus. here was the kavanaugh turning point. let's take a look at that. >> this whole two-week effort has been a calculated and orchestrated political hit fueled with apparent pent-up anger about president trump and the 2016 election, revenge on behalf of the clintons, and as we all know, in the united states poli...

You think democrats will push back on that saying, we need more time, and is that politically -- we feel that the process was not right from the beginni beginning. many documents never were produced. we had a hearing where thousands of pages of documents. this process has not been fair from the beginning. so there's a lot of things in this process that are wrong. we have one last issue which is the fbi investigation. the committee has already voted. they shouldn't have voted until after the fbi investigation came back. so the process has not been fair, but obviously, i think, right now we are ...