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Were paid under the non-disclosure agreements and violated the non-disclosure agreements? i don't see them giving the money back. >> i think you are absolutely right. i think it's malpractice for the attorney for stormy daniels to say go ahead and talk while the case is pending as to whether or not it's a valid and enforceable non-disclosure agreement. so it's stunning to me. but to bradley's point, not everything that benefits a candidate is considered to be a campaign expense. professor smith wrote that in one of his op-eds, and he's absolutely right. if there is a dual purpose or a secondar...

Professor at new york -- adjunct professor at new york law school. and wrote a fantastic new york times best seller, number one, the russian hoax, the illicit scheme to clear hilary clinton and frame donald trump. so i need you gentlemen here for a reason. we're going to dig into some of what's going on, and i want to start with you, brad smith. people tell us federal election laws are arcane. they are arcane, there's too many of them. but that said, people want them, they keep demanding, less money, less money, in politics. i want to ask you a question, if there's an individual who makes a pa...

Hillary clinton's actions, democratic national committee, their efforts, which to me is a violation of a law, is not being investigated. mark: and mr. mueller has frequently gone to rod rosenstein to get his area of investigation broadened and all kinds of things. why do you think he hasn't done it in this case? >> because he's biased and he doesn't want to do anything but focus on donald trump. this is the mentality of people in government. this is why they undertook a scheme to clear hillary clinton, even though she violated the law, and then they're doubling down, they doubled down frame do...

Non-disclosure agreements and violated the non-disclosure agreements? i don't see them giving the money back. >> i think you are absolutely right. i think it's malpractice for the attorney for stormy daniels to say go ahead and talk while the case is pending as to whether or not it's a valid and enforceable non-disclosure agreement. so it's stunning to me. but to bradley's point, not everything that benefits a candidate is considered to be a campaign expense. professor smith wrote that in one of his op-eds, and he's absolutely right. if there is a dual purpose or a secondary purpose, it's not ...

Law schools, and have you written a fantastic "new york times" best-seller, number one, the russian hoax, the illicit scheme to clear hillary clinton and frame donald trump. so i need you gentlemen here for a reason. we're going to dig into what's going on, and i want to start with you, brad smith. people tell us federal election laws are arcane, they are arcane. too damn many of them. but that said, people want them. they keep demanding less money, less money in politics. i want to ask you a question, if there's an individual when makes a payment from their own pocket or from their own compan...