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Throws under the bus -- which we have in iowa, south carolina has it, and many other states have it. and then saying we're willing to make a deal. i don't think the pro life community wants to hear that. we don't want nuance. we want clarity. >> bob vanderplatt, thank you very much for joining us tonight. >> thank you, abby. and a programming reminder for you at home, nikki haley will join cnn for a presidential town hall live from iowa at 8:00 p.m. eastern time. and former vice president mike pence will also be in iowa next wednesday for a town hall of his own. you can catch that at 9:00 p....

Going to self surrender. if he doesn't, it poses an interesting political question. the question of extradition false on the desk of ron desantis. and so things could get very interesting very soon. >> yeah, that is a fascinating point indeed. thanks so much for being with us this afternoon. we appreciate it. and just a programming reminder that tonight pamela brown and some guests will explore how we got here with the multilegal cases involving former president trump. inside the trump investigations airs tonight at 9:00 eastern. there's another big legal case we got to talk about this aft...

Called on this, and it would be surprising if this doesn't play out in what for trump will be the worst case scenario. >> john dean, always a pleasure talking to you. thank you so much. you will be right in front of that television set, as we know millions of other viewers will, too. of course this programming reminder. thank you so much and happy holidays to you. >> thank you. >> we will have special live coverage of tomorrow's january 6 hearing and that begins at noon eastern right here on cnn. still to come, the city of el paso, texas, declaring a state of emergency following a surge of m...

Cancer deaths appear to be on the rise. the study found that they increased 20% between 2010 and 2019. amara, boris, back to you. >> thanks, jacqueline howard for that. up next, we have details on the three inmates charged with killing notorious gangster "whitey" bulger in a federal prison. a quick programming reminder for you, don't miss all new episodes of "united shades of america" on cnn. w. kamau bell goes beyond the crowded beaches of hawaii to explore the tensions between visitors and locals. it airs tomorrow night at 10. sg - automatically. so no more nudging your partner. or optin...

That is a reality. look, an ugliness has been released into the american political system. and we have become addicted to, what my colleague tim miller calls rage juice. that will not end anytime soon. the question is, where does that rage juice leave us? the insurrection on january six. they say it will lead to more political violence going forward. >> we are going to keep this conversation going after the break. but first, a programming reminder. tune in to say for msnbc's coverage of the next january six hearing, kicking off with morning joe at 6 am eastern, followed by the full hearing at ...