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Manning sentencing, the timing of that just kind of feeds into what is already this disillusionment with what he's been saying about what these programs do or don't do, "the wall street journal" story follows a story from the washington post last week. they haven't addressed this in his speech. he said he was confident these programs aren't being abused. i think the more this goes on, the more questions it raises. these kinds of issues particularly resonate with the younger voters. if you looked at bradley manning, there was a lot of younger people. >> michael, before we let you go, do you fee...

And if in fact there was -- there were abuses taking place presumably, those members of congress could raise those issues very aggressively. they're empowered to do so. we also have federal judges that we've put in place who are not subject to political pressure, they've got lifetime tenure as federal judges and they're empowered to look over our shoulder at the executive branch to make sure that these programs aren't being abused. so we have a system in which some information is classified. and we have a system of checks and balances to make sure that it's not abused. if in fact this informat...

Abuses taking place, presumably those members of congress could raise those issues very aggressively. they're empowered to do so. we also have federal judges that we put in place who are not subject to political pressure. they've got lifetime tenure as federal judges, and they're empowered to look over our shoulder at the executive branch to make sure that these programs aren't being abused. so, so we have a system in which some information is classifyied, and we have a system of checks and be balances to make sure that it's not -- checks and balances to make sure it's not puced. and if -- abu...