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Oftentimes those won't be the same. i think the question is what's the purpose of drawing that differentiation now? they're not doing themselves any favoring saying the things and if they're general election candidates, different story but for now maybe not the best strategy. >> what's really interesting here, we were watching the convention last year. a similar headline came out of it was nobody's getting along here in california. you can count the number of different groups maybe on two hands in terms of the views and what they want from a candidate. that's what i was reporting last year. >>...

No, we just need to do better as a party in terms of making our argument and enthussing folks to get out as voters. to your point, i think what's going to be interesting going into 2020 is not necessarily as much although it has a great impact on who the nominee will be, but more importantly will be who the electorate will in 2020. each year as we get to the presidential elections and talking about thatting issing will it be the traditional particularly primary voters and the new enthused young people and sort off progressive base. that completely changes can particularly in states like michig...

Fo fox news for these town halls? >> with elizabeth warren i want necessarily surprised. they are obviously going after very different bases. i think pete buttigieg could be trying to bring in more of a moderate, less progressive base, whereas warren's very progress of base was very happy with her deciding not to go on fox news, doing that town hall and very much praised the decision. however, i think there has been some concern over the i guess decision not to do fox news town halls from warren or reportedly kamala harris. it's interesting, bernie sanders decided not -- did a fox news town ha...

Not incloud exceptions for life of the mother. i asked about that, the minority lead er er in the house. he said that's not my position. it seems that this is something that it there frankly had been for many opponents of abortion rights, there was small victories. this seems to reverse a lot of that. >> when women voters see kevin mccarthy abdicating responsibility because this is happening in the states and not the federal level, it gets women even more angry. there's also a lot of men out there. 7 out of 10 americans support roe v. wade being held in place. so this is an issue that is ignit...

President, he wouldn't be able to accomplish the things he's accomplishing. by the same token, i talked to a whole other segment of trump voters who tell me, i like the guy, but i wish he would stop behaving the way he's behaving. and when you look at the 2018 midterm elections, why did republicans lose so many seats in traditionally conservative territory? because there is a whole subset of more traditional republican voters, the kind that liked the bushes, and this is an important part of the coalition, and they just cannot stomach him. and so, when things -- >> but they can stomach moderate...