York are actually down. so far this year. by the way, the right wing talking point linking budget cuts to crime lines is an old one, but not one that is backed up by facts, as the new york times points out for decades, they acknowledged local crime rates cannot be predicted by officer strength, and police budgets. in the longer term, many mention access to drug treatment, mental health care and even a guaranteed basic income of also been found to reduce crime. perhaps, with fewer downsides than policing. clearly, this is a more complex issue than the fox news spark notes portray. joining me to...