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But everybody has to understand, this is not the start of this process. it's at the very end. >> are there going to be other witnesses? i saw there was some thought of other witnesses, perhaps mr. judge, who she says was an eyewitness. i know he put out a letter but do you want other witnesses at this hearing? >> you know, i want to hear from the -- i'm told i'm not supposed to use these terms, but the accused and the accuser. i think i'm being fair to both of them. i want to start with them. i don't have enough information to decide whether we need to have other witnesses. i just know secondh...

Question that you asked me, have you spoken to judge kavanaugh. specifically, i thought it would be a good thing not to. he can handle himself better than anybody. he is a very outstanding man. >> president trump also said he was okay with delaying this confirmation vote so, quote, both sides can be heard. but he may not have much of a choice. mitch mcconnell is a shrewd political operator. if he had the votes what do you think he would be doing with the kavanaugh nomination? he would probably have it through committee already. we've heard more than a few republican senators in the past severa...

Decision but it was decided to do it on monday. today, we got an update and the only change that i know of is that we agreed to tell professor ford if she would rather do it in a private hearing, she can do it in a proist hearing. it's her choice, public or private. >> any reason why they scheduled the hearing before finding out if she was available? >> well, you've got to start somewhere. and the normal way that the senate committees work, at least my experience is, they set a date and say okay, here is the date and we expect everybody to be here. that's why, in part -- not a totally good rea...

This hearing should take place? >> well, i'm going to see what happens monday. i hope professor ford comes. judge kavanaugh will be there. he has told me that personally. i mean, the process, as you know, is pretty much over, but the confirmation hearing is over. the confidential session that the senators have with the nominee is over. the fbi background investigation is over. the time period to submit written questions is over. professor ford has made these allegations. they should be taken seriously. i hope she coelects to come mony and, frankly, i hope she elects to do it in a public hearin...

>> our panel is back, cornell, shane and danielle. this is something we've been hearing about for some time. this concern. it's just like you dealt with in the obama era, right? there are obama voters and democratic voters and they don't always overlap. and there are trump voters and republican voters and they don't always overlap. >> i think that is true here. newsflash, trump voters are not connected to reality situation. but also, chuck, remember, for core trump voters it's not like trump himself has been in love with mitch mcconnell and speaker ryan either. he routinely goes after -- >> it...