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Clinton made wasn't enforced and then bush 43 be a gre gated that deal which i think was another mistake. the u.s. doesn't seem to have anymore a global strategy. when you link north korea and iran and pakistan, which i know we're going to talk about, the proliferation problems there require a global strategy. i agree with richard that we need to lead. we haven't been leading for a long time. i don't blame this all on president trump. all i was saying is at least he's calling attention or did first thing in his presidency to what is the most urgent proliferation problem. >> and he's gotten som...

In his speech on tuesday. today signals that the plan is continuing as predicted. we are in a diplomatic phase and getting more sanctions and the things the state department wanted to do. we are not really in a substantive way talking to military options except to the extent that the rhetoric the president is using is designed to get people's attention at least in some measure. >> there is a contradiction at the heart of this strategy because it does go from diplomacy to harsh rhetoric. you want the world to see it as a collective problem. the un is designed to come together and see north kore...

The prime minister of japan spending two days together and playing golf and apparently having a good time together. i would assume that they talked about missile defense in japan just like it has been talked about in south korea. fair assumption? >> absolutely. the japanese are worried about north korea. one of the reasons that north korea and iran have spent so much time cooperating on ballistic missiles is because of the concern that japan expressed after the north korean test in 1998. so i think this reveals the proliferation problem of both iran and north korea is something that obama did ...

Of mass destruction, so i'm intimate with how the intelligence community does its job quite professionally. there will be gaps between what the syrians declare they have and what our estimates are. that's just the start. and then what has happened since we put a spotlight, we, the international community, put a spotlight on the use of chemical weapons. these things have grown legs and migrated all over the place. it would not be surprising to find they've migrated both into iraq and across the border into lebanon. that would be a big proliferation problem. but we have to expect that to take pl...

Townsend, who is currently a member of the cia's external advisory committee. christiane, seems like the state department is clearly dialing back the rhetoric, saying this doesn't need to get any hotter. >> yes. 24 hours ago we were here discussing what seemed to be a very serious situation. but you are absolutely right. i think it's come to the conclusion that no matter what they say from north korea, you can't respond in kind, because it simply rachets up the tension so from the state department and from the pentagon today, a clear desire to step back off this very confrontational ledge. que...