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Institution. and this process is going to go forward. and republicans can decide if they want to clown around like they have in the past or if they want to treat this like the serious constitutional matter that it is. >> we've been trying to warn our viewers of a possible iceberg ahead, and i'm curious to hear how much you actually fear an attempted government shutdown as we go forward in these next few weeks. >> well, you know, it would be very unfortunate. and what we do know is that government shutdowns do not work in favor of the -- those who are pushing forward for a shutdown. it's not a ...

Thorough procedure that allows full participation. >> earlier tonight i was calling this vote procedural. do you think there's any more risk to it than that? >> no, i don't. i think it was an important part of the process. the house got, democrats got an affirmative ruling in the courts last week. they had already opened an impeachment inquiry, and now this sets about the process by which those public hearings will be conducted. >> can you name one member of congress with an r after their name who you're going to be curious to see if they cross over and vote for this? >> well, you know, we do ...

Voted down in that respect. and it all comes back to that whistle-blower complaint, though, and the extent to which it's being corroborated behind closed doors. and that's my first thought hearing this "washington post" story tonight. >> so mieke, by distant of your experience on the house of representatives, you know that in normal times if it's a foot race between molasses and the house calendar molasses wins walking away. however, all of this has been fast tracked. having said that, do you have any idea, just a viewer's guide, as to timing? start with when we'll see the first public hearing...

We'll be looking at articles of impeachment? >> i think we could. but as the speaker has said, this is a -- it is a process, and they're going to go where the facts take them. but i think it is likely that we're going to end up before then. but in time for the senate to start the new year and begin the process of trying the president, should it come to that, you know, the speaker said that she's not confident -- she doesn't know yet where this is going to lead, when you look at the evidence that's been laid out even in the public thus far, i mean, it seems very unlikely that there would not be...

Today. they report "nobody came here to impeach a president, and no decision has been made to impeach the president, pelosi told members, according to an aide in the room, but she added a decision had been made to open the impeachment inquiry and now we are putting forth the terms as to how we go forth in the fairest possible way." republicans are continuing to argue that the president is not being afforded proper due proce process. here is majority leader mitch mcconnell on the senate floor earlier today. >> no due process now, maybe some later, but only if we feel like it is not a standard t...