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The difference of volume in materials recovered, and also because trump's conduct raised questions about obstruction. and in cnn's new reporting, it's revealed how much evidence prosecutors have and how significant the legal threat is. >> terrific reporting, paula. thank you very much. stay with us, as we bring in our guests. the trump team can't find this document, but prosecutors do have this recording. how much does that matter in terms of the special counsel's investigation? >> what the special counsel is trying to determine is whether there is a version of this document. the defense dep...

Of how would a child be prepared, and why the mother may be looked at, criminally, in this particular instance. that adds to those questions about law enforcement would surely be asking. >> yes, there is no question about that, lauren. i think that you really have to look to when you're examining this from a prosecution perspective. you, know as you know, there is a saying, law, that the risk of perceives as the duty for fines. what does that mean in english? certainly, it's a risk in the event that you leave a gun, right, that a child could get a hold. if that is the risk. you certainly would...

>> i am glad you raised that point, it does add to the idea of how a child would be prepared and why the mother maybe look that criminally. that adds to those questions that law enforcement will surely be asking. >> there is no question about that. you have to look at it when you are examining this from the prosecution perspective. there is a saying that the risk to see is the duty to find, in english it means the risk is leaving a gun where a child can get a hold of it, you would receive the duty to stop that. it is horrific that we would receive this, this is really incredible will need talk...

Awaiting a lot for this probable cause affidavit understandably. the details and they will be unsealed as i understand it once he's in ohio -- idaho, rather. what are you looking for in ter terms of details w, what will i tell us. >> it will tell us a lot. it will speak to the issue of probable cause. why is he under arrest. what is the justification for holding him and for going after him from a prosecution perspective. number one, i'm looking for dna. was his dna there? and does it establish, you know, with respect to a connection of him being in that residence. is there any reason to explai...

Expressing and use that to have evidentiary value? the supreme court declining to hear that case, but it is not an uncommon thing. and lately it has been a question of fact as to whether or not from a defense perspective we say this is pure nonsense, from a prosecution perspective we say this is exactly what their intent was, this is direct evidence of them suggesting it, the jury can make that assessment ultimately. >> let's talk about the charges, joey. because these are really serious. i mean, it is also -- we're talking about, you know, rico charges, racketeering here. so he allegedly rent...