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Conservatives used to stand for. basic principles and basic, you know, moral standing. so i think that she is probably going to at least consider running for president in the future. i don't think southeast going to win. i think she would very much be a protest candidate. but i think we've seen over the last five years that donald trump is not going to defeat himself with republican voters. we kind of dance around him. he's going to squash everybody. and we need more people willing to go right at him. and here we have one, and i'm really glad to see it. >> ashley parker, let's talk about this ...

He likes to speak very confidently about the economy, his chance of re-election. but the things he is doing seem to forestall even the tiniest possibility he could be challenged. that does not sound like confidence to me. >> no. this move does not exude confidence. particularly given the fact the polls suggest he is in the upper 80s when it comes to support. but i also think there are some other numbers. there have been surveys showing at least 40% or around 40% of republican primary voters might be open to the idea of somebody else. there might be, willing to vote for a protest candidate. for...

Uncertainty given the jobs report today and his approval rating is stuck in the low 40s which is not a solid position for an incumbent president. >> let me to go to you. are you still a registered republican, charlie? the thing is that the trump -- he likes to speak very confidently about the economy, his chance of re-election. but the things he is doing seem to forestall even the tiniest possibility he could be challenged. that does not sound like confidence to me. >> no. this move does not exude confidence. particularly given the fact the polls suggest he is in the upper 80s when it comes to...

Are you still a registered republican, charlie? the thing is that the trump -- he likes to speak very confidently about the economy, his chance of re-election. but the things he is doing seem to forestall even the tiniest possibility he could be challenged. that does not sound like confidence to me. >> no. this move does not exude confidence. particularly given the fact the polls suggest he is in the upper 80s when it comes to support. but i also think there are some other numbers. there have been surveys showing at least 40% or around 40% of republican primary voters might be open to the idea...

African-american voters all over the place. oncela he does well in iowa, thy say that barack obama is not a protest candidate, he is a real bona fide top-drawer candidate, boom, they support him. >> laura: doesn't make you think also the 2016 elizabeth warren should have just knocked down the clintons to run? that was her time. looking back on -- it's easy, 20/20 hindsight but that was really her time to run. you want to run as a real -- it got to take the clintons to run. it's like trumpeter take on the bushes or do what he could to distance himself. but it's a hard fit now because trump has ...