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That are going to be able to accommodate the reality of that. i also believe while some people would look at that and say those are provocative act, you're going to force north korea to action. i would say rubbish to that. and the provocative act is nuclearizing icbm's and pointing them at america. and those are proven measures that any military force would have to do if they have a credible policy of wanting this to use a military option. and i'm not suggesting all-out war, but a military option, a very limited military option which obviously could escalate to war. gillian: how worried are yo...

Part of syria. >> let me ask you about north korea now. yesterday the trump administration put north korea on the sponsor list of terrorism. they also announced some new sanctions today. in your view, are these measures meaningful? >> they're all good. they're amping up the pressure. none of these are a step function, all right? we're on a curve here. that's increasing the pressure on the north koreans. i think designating them a state sponsor of terror gives us additional tools for secondary sanctions that we can interfere in the banking system of those who would dare bank with the north kore...

And the u.s. in particular, china and the u.s., is that an objective of kim jong-un, does he like seeing that? >> well, certainly it serving north korea's purpose, it serves their natural interest to divide and concur. so north korea is an outlier state, they are a division state, they're dissatisfied with the status quo. they'd like to overturn the status quo in numbers that i just mentioned. when the community's divided they can further their goals more easily. having a united front and strong coalition deters and prevents them from doing that or challenging the status quo. >> so you've esta...

Welcome back. also in today's world lead in a new show of defiance, north korea held another missile test over the weekend. it was the second missile test within one week, this time launching a medium range ballistic missile into the waters off its east coast. it comes as the pentagon says it is sending a second u.s. carrier group in that direction. let's go to cnn's barbara starr who is live for us at the pentagon. barbara, north korea now says it's ready to mass produce these medium range missiles. what's the potential reach, and who should be afraid of being a target? >> well, there's just ...

But if iran comes in and does a p provocative act, you to make very clear to them that that is unacceptable. that we will not accept that kind of provocative act. for that reason, i think what the navy ship did recently indicates that they are entering a danger zone, and they are not to do that. we took the same steps with regards to making clear to them they ought not to go after our drones, largely in international airspace. the only way you deal with iran is drawing those kinds of lines and i'm glad they did that. >> an iranian diplomat met for the first time with a trump state department o...