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Saying this. this is the first attack of a major nature in which a cyber attack was used to effect physical destruction. don't you at least indirectly confirm the leak? >> i was quite clear. it is accepted and puck lic puc knowledge that it happened. whoever did it crossed a policy barrier made a decision that in a time of peace one could use a cyber weapon to effect physical destruction on what another nation could only describe as their own critical infrastructure. >> chris: but you this no way confirmed that the u.s. was involved. >> not at all. >> chris: as discuss with david plouffe, some...

Saying this. this is the first attack of a major nature in which a cyber attack was used to effect physical destruction. don't you at least indirectly confirm the leak? >> i was quite clear. it is accepted and puck lic puc knowledge that it happened. whoever did it crossed a policy barrier made a decision that in a time of peace one could use a cyber weapon to effect physical destruction on what another nation could only describe as their own critical infrastructure. >> chris: but you this no way confirmed that the u.s. was involved. >> not at all. >> chris: as discuss with david plouffe, some...