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In march? >> the government thought manifort was helping more than he did. this is the problem. they say he lied. if his lawyers admit he lied they will indict him for purgely. if his lawyers deny he lied the federal judge can't sentence him until she determined if he lied. to make that determination she has to have a mini trial. that gives a window into mueller's thinking. we find out what they asked manifort what they claim he lied about. >> dana: and maria butina she arranged nra leaders to go to moscow to meet different people. i don't know what to make about that. >> this is another examp...