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Campaign sent spent in that fourth quarter or whether it spent less money on fund-raising and more money on getting carson elected. joining me dean parker, senior advisor to the carson campaign. thank you for joining me. >> thank you for having me. >> i have had two different republican consultants e-mail in the last week who basically say the carson campaign is adrift. this is what people are saying. this is a consultant grist in which money is being raised from small dollar donors. he's a beloved figure, raises money. the money goes back out the door to people hired to do the fund-raising an...

That's the first reason why a traditional political candidate can say it a little different. number two, when you go to it, it's the people in the pundit status that the lift that have a chance to speak to the voters that want to talk to us. they just put money back into their pocket and back talking back to you. number three, the people are interested in raising money and giving it to dr. carson. as we go through the process, we're continuing to do what we need to do and that's get voters aligned with us. we now have a strong list and strong mailer. if you look at the end of the third quarter...

It's the people in the pundit status that the lift that have a chance to speak to the voters that want to talk to us. they just put money back into their pocket and back talking back to you. number three, the people are interested in raising money and giving it to dr. carson. as we go through the process, we're continuing to do what we need to do and that's get voters aligned with us. we now have a strong list and strong mailer. if you look at the end of the third quarter, we ended the campaign with as much if not more than any other political campaign with $11 million in the bank. >> about ha...