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BBCNEWS HARDtalk July 5, 2024



he is south africa s most prominent, most controversial political cartoonist. so, amid all of its troubles, is south africa able to laugh at itself? jonathan shapiro, better known by the pen name zapiro, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. well, it s a great pleasure to meet you, and i want to begin with something you said a few years ago. you said, moral outrage is what drives a cartoonist. you ve been at this cartooning for pretty much four decades. can you maintain outrage for four decades? you can. when i was doing five or six cartoons a week, i would sometimes wonder what the hell i m going to do today, and you wake up in the morning and the news itjust keeps coming. it would happen to cartoonists everywhere in the world because that s what drives all of us, i m sure. anyone who takes this craft, or this genre of communication seriously. but in a place like south africa, the news just hits you from every angle every day at an unbelievable rate. i wonder whether the ....

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BBCNEWS HARDtalk July 5, 2024



welcome to hardtalk. jonathan shapiro, better known by the pen name zapiro, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. well, it s a great pleasure to meet you, and i want to begin with something you said a few years ago. you said, moral outrage is what drives a cartoonist. you ve been at this cartooning for pretty much four decades. can you maintain outrage for four decades? you can. laughter when i was doing five or six cartoons a week, i would sometimes wonder what the hell i m going to do today, and you wake up in the morning and the news itjust keeps coming. it would happen to cartoonists everywhere in the world because that s what drives all of us, i m sure. anyone who takes this craft, or this genre of communication seriously. but in a place like south africa, the news just hits you from every every angle every day at an unbelievable rate. i wonder whether there s something personal about this outrage, which clearly developed quite young in you. you had a lot of trauma i ....

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BBCNEWS The July 5, 2024



also on the programme. the latest developments in the middle east. including the funeral of a hamas deputy leader in lebanon. thousands of people were there. prince andrew and bill clinton are named in files relating to sex offenderjeffrey epstein. we ll look at what we ve learnt. and ai terrorism, stethescopes and keyboard keys. all in our weekly look at artificial intelligence ai. decoded is coming up. plenty of elections around the world this year. now know a bit more about what could be happening here in the uk. rishi sunak says the general election is likely to happen in the second half of this year . he didn t rule out it happening earlier but says his working assumption is later this year. opposition labour party leader keir starmer says sunak is squatting in downing street for months on end . here s our political editor chris mason reports. can i welcome to you this morning, rishi sunak, the prime minister? mansfield in nottinghamshire a town the conserv ....

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BBCNEWS HARDtalk July 5, 2024



jonathan shapiro, better known by the pen name zapiro, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. well, it s a great pleasure to meet you, and i want to begin with something you said a few years ago. you said, moral outrage is what drives a cartoonist. you ve been at this cartooning for pretty much four decades. can you maintain outrage for four decades? you can. laughter when i was doing five or six cartoons a week, i would sometimes wonder what the hell i m going to do today, and you wake up in the morning and the news itjust keeps coming. it would happen to cartoonists everywhere in the world because that s what drives all of us, i m sure. anyone who takes this craft, or this genre of communication seriously. but in a place like south africa, the news just hits you from every angle every day at an unbelievable rate. i wonder whether there s something personal about this outrage, which clearly developed quite young in you. you had a lot of trauma in your family, in your life ....

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BBCNEWS HARDtalk July 5, 2024



my guest is abdullah mohtadi, leader of the komala party of iranian kurdistan. is his a fight for rights orfor independence? abdullah mohtadi, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for having me. it s a great pleasure to have you on the show. i began by referring there to the tragic death of mahsa amini. would you say that her death last september in custody inside iran has changed the political dynamic inside iran? it has because on the 16th of september, she was declared dead in the hospital. the day after, on the 17th, there was a funeral in her hometown of saqqez in the province of kurdistan there are four kurdish provinces in iran and it was a spontaneous protest movement erupted in saqqez, her hometown, and it soon spread to sanandaj, the capital city of that province. and two days after that, on the 19th, it was a general strike called by the cooperation center the kurdish political parties which was fully observed. and after that, they called for a peaceful eveni ....

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