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It and what is your job now? do you bring doug in and doug doesn't know how. >> right. i just at that time wanted to try to be as calm as i possibly could to keep him as calm as he possibly could and try to give him the confidence he needed to feel that he could fly that plane and get it down safely with his family. >> sure. now, as i understand it, doug white was taking his family back home. he had taken off from marco island in florida and actually there was another pilot flying the plane and he's in a great big king air which he owned. mr. white owned. but had only been in it one time. he o...

Pilot out of the way. joe who had passed was too big for them to move. so luckily, he had some pilot experience and i was able to talk to him and use some of the layman's terms and help him get through the situation and calm him down and get him to start flying it as if it was a cessna. bring it as basically -- as basic as i could. >> and what was extraordinary about it is the fact that here this guy has his family, his daughters are in the back seat so he's not only worried about himself but his family. you were able to talk him through it. had you ever flown that kind of airplane before? >> ...

>> i got to declare an emergency. my pilot is unconscious. i need help up here. i need to get this thing on the ground. i'm flying a king air. my pilot is deceased. i need help. >> we'll have you hand fly the plane. >> all right. you want me to disengage the autopilot? >> five delta whiskey, affirmative. i'll disengage. >> passenger doug white successfully landed that plane. there was a reason why, it was because of the approach of a group of air traffic controllers. among them, lisa grimm, lisa, congratulations. i know they awarded you for your courageous action in orlando. first off, you've ...

They put a lot of taxes up front and then the so-called goodies, the subsidies as part of the exchange are going to happen later in 2014 and that was partly for budgetary reasons but also partly because it's going to take a long time to write the rules to make the budget -- to make the subsidies and the exchanges work. it takes about 831 days to write a complex rule according to a rutgers study and that might not be enough time in this case because it's incredibly complex, this one. >> you're making a lot of people nervous this morning. the former health and human services deputy secretary und...

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