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Districts or one very republican district, they will try to draw that line so that both districts are republican, with western districtte less republican than the eastern district, they both doing held by republicans, the problem gets to in state that drop that have to reduce number of seats like california. and new york. andan illinois. and you have there is a situation where in illinois they said we'll take every possible republican that we can and either pair them up or cut their district up and take it from under them, representative adam district split up between i think 3 other districts...