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What they are saying is this -- that certain groups have a higher incidence of conditions that put them at higher risk. well, why not base your decisions on risk rather than race? you just identified the conditions. look for those conditions. and if you are right, and i think they are right, it means the african american community, for example, will get more assistance because those conditions are more prevalent in that group. but the administration and new york wants to sort of put race as a criteria up front, a threshold criteria, even though that's not relevant in terms of what is the decis...

Zimmerman murder trial could lose credibility all because of the words a witness said martin used to describe the man who shot him. >> creepy. [ expletive ] cracker. >> yes. >> it was racial but it was trayvon martin that put race in this? >> no. >> you don't think that's a racial comment? >> no. >> you don't think that creepy. [ expletive ] cracker is racial comment? >> no. >> is there a difference between witness rachel jenteel and paula deen. >> the difference is about 40 years. i think to expect a 19-year-old to know the history of a term like cracker as opposed to a 66-year-old knowing th...

>> describing the person. >> pardon me? >> describing the person -- >> i just didn't -- >> describing the person that was watching him and following him. >> i see. >> sir. >> and that's because he described him as a creepy ass cracker? >> yes. >> so it was racial, but it was because trayvon martin put race in this? >> no. >> you don't think that's a racial comment? >> no. >> you don't think that creepy ass cracker is a racial comment? >> no. >> let's dig deeper with the team of legal pros. sunny, what do you think of those comments? the defense spent a lot of time on the subject of race today ...

>> no. >> let's dig deeper with the team of legal pros. sunny hostin, and criminal defense attorney danny savios. sunny, what do you think of those comments? the defense spent a lot of time on the subject of race today with rachel jeantel implying it was trayvon martin that put race into the discussion by using that term. >> that didn't make a lot of sense to me given the fact the defense fought so hard from keeping the prosecution from saying racial profiling and they were victorious in that. so they have taken what was the elephant in the room and painted it bright pink and everyone is talki...