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CNN Newsroom-20130629-21:32:00

argument is it's comparing to be on point with this case, it's like comparing skittles and handgun. they don't have the same power. >> is he right? we took the words to the people on the street. >> they are both derogatory and racist. the feeling i get inside from when i hear that word is different. it's a psychological thing. >> if someone were to call me a honky or cracker, i don't think it would offend me as much as this word offends other people from my experience. >> if you hear other people saying this word or this word as opposed to that word, this still offends you more? >> yes. >> even if it's a black person calling a white person those words? >> yes. i'm being completely honest. >> honesty might be the answer says a professor who says he shouldn't be censoring this snl clip. >> spade. >> honky, honky.

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CNN Newsroom-20130629-21:31:00

zimmerman murder trial could lose credibility all because of the words a witness said martin used to describe the man who shot him. >> creepy. [ expletive ] cracker. >> yes. >> it was racial but it was trayvon martin that put race in this? >> no. >> you don't think that's a racial comment? >> no. >> you don't think that creepy. [ expletive ] cracker is racial comment? >> no. >> is there a difference between witness rachel jenteel and paula deen. >> the difference is about 40 years. i think to expect a 19-year-old to know the history of a term like cracker as opposed to a 66-year-old knowing the history of the n word is a ridiculous comparison. >> did martin bring race into it by using the term? >> the problem with that

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CNN Newsroom-20130629-21:30:00

first, let's take a look at how we got here. >> this classic saturday night life sketch ran unbleeped in 1975. >> jungle bunny. >> pecker wood. >> burr head. >> cracker. >> it probably wouldn't run today. why? have we lost our sense of humor. >> what was so profound about that sketch wasn't just that they got away with using the n word and a lot of other racial slurs but what that sketch demonstrated is certain slurs there are no trump cards for and the n word is one of them. >> all over words paula deen is losing her tv job and millions in endorsement money. >> inappropriate language is totally, totally unacceptable. >> the prosecution in the george

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CNN Newsroom-20130629-21:37:00

friend and they both were calling each other that term. i was like -- at first he was on the phone and i thought he was talking to his black friend. we met him and he was talking to his white friend. it's not just black people using that word. >> i would be happy if no one used the word. i was saying that white 20 something should learn you can listen to the music and hear the words but it doesn't mean you have to repeat them because the truth is they can turn -- >> you can't sing along? >> why are white people fighting so fiercely for the right to use the n word? let it go. >> one person who is fighting fiercely to have a say and that's buck davis. go ahead. >> i have trouble comparing those words don because you can't compare the stories behind those words. let's take cracker for instance. if anybody calls me cracker, there's no power associated with it. you call me honky, there's no

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CNN Newsroom-20130629-21:55:00

of many people. and that's what she's laboring under in terms of how he she speaks as well as how she looks and conducts herself. >> the difference is, though, that the honey boo boos of the world will get a show. she won't. it's highly unlikely or it would be a show that would make all of us cringe. it's kind of like this. every now and then i'm walking around in new york and somebody will say, john, i love your work on cnn. and i have to think to myself, wait a minute, they think i'm don lemon. and we don't look that much alike. it's just that there's a certain -- not racist, but there's a certain sense that you're a little bit less real. that's what she's lake under except in a way that's hurtful. because people are thinking of her as a kind of creature when actually she's somebody speaking a very interesting, very dynamic form of english. she's actually speaking it very well. >> yeah. i spoke with tim wise, you know, the anti-racism -- he said it actually makes her a more cred iblt witness because she's real. she didn't have to say that trayvon said that he was a crazy cracker, whatever she said. that makes her more credible.

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CNN Newsroom-20130629-21:56:00

>> exactly. she's actually telling the truth. and as far as the cracker bit goes, i mean, she's dissimulating a little bit in saying that it's not racial, but on the other hand think we all understand that there's a power issue here. his using that word "cracker" given that he's black and that there's a history and that the relationship between young black men and the police i think is the main thing keeping us from even beginning to get past race in this country is such that it's completely different from somebody using the n word as a slur. and i think most of us understand that. >> thank you, sir. >> thank you, don. >> we'll be right back.

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