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Pushing putin back. the president, this is a quote, this is a strategic failure for russia already. do you think it is a larger strategic failure, and do you think in that speech that the president was calling for regime change, basically signaling the russians and the oligarchs to push putin out? >> yes with. russia is failing, and a defeat of the russian military in ukraine can make europe safer for generations. but, eric, that was a stunning remark by biden. he said, for god's sakes, putin must not remain. and i think that's unprecedented in u.s./russian diplomatic history. that puts relati...

That. so we need for nato countries to make the decision. we need to make the decision and give us the fighter jets. we will fly them. we will be pushing putin back. and i, as a politician, i do understand that nobody if wants to take responsibility, that things get buried with moving the jets here and there, transferring them different countries, saying let's wait for couple of day, but we don't have couple of days. we are dying every single day here. people are dying, hundreds in riupol. people are dying of different air force attacks in various cities of ukraine. so every single minute ther...

Ukraine. we would be prepared to act when the time and if the time comes. again, our actions will not just be limited to economic actions in that situation. up until now, we had heard about the economic threats of nuclear option they call them. this is suggesting they may be willing to go further. is it a big enough threat to hold putin back? >> a threat alone will not do it. it's nice to hear that, but if the most severe consequence were going to see is through rhetoric or diplomatic memoranda, that is not going to work for putin. the option to put some announcement table, military force, at ...

Action that he means what he says when he says he's different from donald trump than he wants to have a different approach it these issues. i think going back to the situation with putin in the call tomorrow, he said on friday and they have made clear considering these sanctions that he's talking very tough sand willing to take tough action to try to push putin back and try to discourage him, as you said, raise the price of any action that he might take. i think the other question, too, though is on sort of the point that the secretary was making, is there a series of actions or approaches tha...

That has tremendous potential. >> and point of fact, she has never met the north korean dictator, ever. a spokesperson later said that because the president confides in the first lady so much, he feels that she has come to know kim, too. as for other dictators whom the first lady has met, the president once again took the dictator side of things. here is some of what he said about vladimir putin and russia which was kicked out of what was then the g 8 for annexing crimea. listen to how he explains what russia did as he argues the case to invite putin back. >> they should be in. they were a pre...