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workers in the lab at that time. if you are able to go back and look at those blood samples and say, did they show antibodies to the covid virus, then that would be another pretty definitive piece of data. and then you would obviously want to have a complete forensics investigation of the lab. but it is these things, these types of things that we do not have still. that has been the lack of transparency that so many people have been talking about. i think the answer to the question that everybody is answering ins noble, but we don't know it because we don't have all the data. >> sanj...

Department of energy saying this lens a lot more credence than certainly headlines suggested, when they were mocking people. but the jury is still out. we actually do not know what the origin is, still. >> my point is that one people were simply raising questions about, it they were called kooks, they were called quark's, they were called conspiracy theorists for raising the possibility that this might have come out of a lab and now you have intelligence agencies saying yeah, it might have. by the, way we are never going to know the answer to those because the chinese government will never all...