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You consider the fact they could have charged her with the allegations of having sex with someone in custody and with the allegations of conspiring to murder her husband. so at the end of the day i think she got a good deal. >> so how long do you think she'll actually spend behind bars? >> that's a great question carol. under new york law they impose in cases like this an indeterminate sentence. you heard there's a range here 2 1/2 up to 7 years. she's not going to serve the 7 years unless she gets into prison and really causes some trouble. i think normally under the prison rules there, parol...

Pizza? >> that's a very good question carol. in fact in thinking about that the way i would look at it would be from the perspective of why did that happen. obviously the easy answer was he was hungry. yet if you take a look at the overall viewpoint of the whole thing, this whole thing was a job for the suspect or suspects. presumably there's more than one. in other words, there was really no emotion involved in this entire thing for them. so consequently it's very easy for them to just have something to eat and then kill four people with complete impunity. it's a very cold very calculated lau...

Jim sciutto is joining us now from washington. i think probably some lawmakers agree with that poll and with the people of america. >> no question carol, and that's why what you'll hear from secretary of state john kerry. he said this for a number of months now. in the old negotiations with the soviet union, the saying used to be trust but verify. what secretary kerry will say about these talks is verify but verify. yes, he will grant there's very little trust. there's been a lot of iranian violation of previous agreement. so the intention is the obama administration says is to make sure that ...

So glory, mitch mcconnell bit the bullet and did what was best for the country, right? he showed strong leadership. why can't house speaker john boehner do the same? >> i think john boehner is actually asking himself the same question carol. he's got lots of republicans over there who say hell no. they don't want anything to do with a vote that would look like they were giving assent in any way, shape or form to immigration. i think the only reason -- i was told this by a senior house democrat yesterday. the only reason that some republicans who are conservative and hate the president's immigr...