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Discuss. so they are focusing on let's get everybody talking about what was the intel just after what led to this discussion about the video. that's ridiculous. set that aside and talk about what a serious -- it was from the very beginning. they didn't have a contingency plan when things went south. once a balloon goes up and you have got a problem like this attack, not as simple as saying send in the air force. have you got to have plans in place and you have got to have a counter assault team available. more than that, you should have had that security locked down months and months ago. >> i...

All of this is it would not have fit the narrative of the administration which is minimal footprint that we're letting you run your country. >> al qaeda is on the run? >> al qaeda is on the run. we are out. we have taken out our military presence there. wouldn't have fit that anywherive. >> politics will come into these decisions a lot of times. and prance, perhaps the administration or the department of defense thought it's just too risky to try to put some sort of forces on the ground to save these guys. who knows what happens. they could have another somalia situation black hawk down and ma...

Of attack. september 11th warning about growing problems with the security situation there. why might these pleas have been ignored? >> well, because, again, it didn't fit the narrative and ever since the very beginning of our involvement in libya, and, you know, can you argue well, what were we doing in libya? supposedly it was an effort to save civilians, you know from, qaddafi. okay. never mind the fact that we have been silent in syria. but, it was very hands off. you know, it was air support. it was take control of the air and allow the libyan rebels and others to get in there and overthr...

Liberating these people and everything is going well. that's why i think you saw this repeated denial of any additional security forces because of the optic. because of the policy. so any time you have that level of concern, you are seeing repeated intelligence indicating that things are not right. you had members of al qaeda functioning militia all around you, yet, no one was paying attention. it was because of the politics. that's the only explanation that this point fits. >> we, i guess i didn't want to believe. i wanted to believe the cia was a nonpolitical organization, but we now know th...

Chris stevens is? you know, this is what happened. on september 11th we were attacked and just got those thoughts. en but the original intent of the question was to it ask those individuals if they were aware of the spark that incited the violence in libya. to see if they would, maybe toe the party line and recite that this was a spontaneous uprising due to a youtube video. and i was simply speechless when i asked that question and they hadn't heard of the event at all. so, i didn't really spend a whole lot of time explaining the event after that. >> caleb bonham we have got to leave it there....