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Joining us is the political reporter for the "la times." let's get into the man behind the memo here. this is interesting. devin nunes in 2013 was talking about senator ted cruz and some of the hard line republicans, more conservatives, who forced a government shutdown. here's what nunes said at the time. watch. >> it is guys who meet privately, they're always conspireing. it is mostly about power. it's just gotten us nowhere. >> he came to congress 16 years ago, stayed close to leadership and then donald trump came to town. >> he served on his transition team. >> he was on the transition team...

Remember this? to look at classified reports that allegedly showed proof of improper surveillance of trump officials during the campaign. that evidence never came out. the source of that information is sketchy, at best. nunes was eventually forced to temporarily step away from the house intel committee's russia investigation. that was april. by december, the ethics committee cleared him of any wrongdoing. but while nunes was taking a break from the investigation, one of his top aides sent two staffers to london to try to find christopher steele, the author of that infamous dossier on donald tr...

Could this mean? it doesn't necessarily mean that. >> it could mean lots of things. it could mean that he's going to plea and he wants one lawyer to cut the plea deal. it could mean that he can't afford five lawyers at once. we're talking about hundreds of dollars an hour for the talent he has, and it could mean that the lawyers have an ethical problem. but i think it's really hard to tell from the outside why this is happening. but there could be lots of innocent reasons or non-newsworthy reasons as well. >> nonsinging to the choir reasons as well. we will see. robert driscoll, thank you. jul...