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Presidential elections in your time. you know, the numbers tough for joe biden but his other numbers, his support among african-american voters, him being seen as the best candidate to beat donald trump, does this look to you like a snapshot in time or part of a larger trend downward for the vice president? >> i think that matters to joe biden and what he does in the next few days and couple of weeks to stabilize his campaign and get back on the comeback trail. if he simply goes quiet and does not address some of these issues i think he'll continue to sink but he will not gain the traction he ...

Executed, even though they were found innocent. that's a race issue. charlottesville, birtherism with barack obama, just the list goes on, how he goes after maxine waters. it is just so much, black women. what he did to congresswoman frederica wilson. race is something they don't need to touch. and donald jr. did that and he had to pull it back because it is another thing stacked on as you lead into 2020. how can he say he's someone for everyone when he's going continue -- continues to go after black women or black people? it is not a good look. >> we'll see if we -- if this moves to the cente...

Behind it. they know that the strikes are going to strike down using race as the basis of admissions. this uses an algorithm by a private contractor, it'll be more difficult to sue on that basis. we know there's a lot of political polarization in the country, paul, and this just throws more gas heene on the fire. -- gasoline on the fire. one group this clearly is aimed at is asians because they're out there on the far end of tests and admissions, and they're the ones who are really, really going to be disadvantaged by this plan, and they are already filing lawsuits as we know against harvard b...

Behind it. they know that the strikes are going to strike down using race as the basis of admissions. this uses an algorithm by a private contractor, it'll be more difficult to sue on that basis. we know there's a lot of political polarization in the country, paul, and this just throws more gas heene on the fire. -- gasoline on the fire. one group this clearly is aimed at is asians because they're out there on the far end of tests and admissions, and they're the ones who are really, really going to be disadvantaged by this plan, and they are already filing lawsuits as we know against harvard b...

Speaks to some of the ire he gets from people in the black community. you would find loot of president who made accomplishments from the african-american community that are far more significant. ie lyndon baines johnson who passed the fair housing act which ende end ended housing discrimination. >> martha: you cannot belie the fact that the truth of the matter is that there have been some good developments for everyone. you know, the economy is doing better. and it has lifted all boats which is a positive and, he is going to go after spike lee. he is going after president trump and is he alway...