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Let's watch. >> there are other factors that i think were the stimulus for the investigation. the revelation of papadopoulos which was not a name on my radar scope. >> laura: kim your reaction to clapper there? >> well, we have been told recently by the "new york times" that it was george papadopoulos that inspired this investigation and not the discredited dossier. last year the "new york times" said it was the dossier that did it. now it's been discredited. now it's george papadopoulos. to find out the head of intelligence doesn't know this guy's name. he was not on his radar screen at the t...

Clip. let's watch. >> there are other factors that i think were the stimulus for the investigation. the revelation of papadopoulos which was not a name on my radar scope. >> laura: kim your reaction to clapper there? >> well, we have been told recently by the "new york times" that it was george papadopoulos that inspired this investigation and not the discredited dossier. last year the "new york times" said it was the dossier that did it. now it's been discredited. now it's george papadopoulos. to find out the head of intelligence doesn't know this guy's name. he was not on his radar screen at...

About george papadopoulos, which was not a name on my radar scope when i left, may -- i think also was another factor. i don't think there was one thing that individually prompted the -- >> and that's a claim that's gotten a life of its own, it's repeated by the president, repeated by his supporters as fact when in fact the man who led the intelligence agencies says it's not a fact. >> you may not be able to answer this but i'll ask anyway. you mentioned his personal animus towards hillary clinton. is there anything you can shed light on in terms of what else has been corroborated? >> that ani...

Ornls. we're now with someone who was at the center of it all, former director of intelligence james clapper. you were there when this happened. was papadopoulos a major factor in the launch of the investigation? >> well, not to my knowledge contemporaneously. george papadopoulos was a name that was not on my radar scope at the time and the first i knew about him in his role was when the plea bargain was announced. so short answer to your question is, no, that was not a name known to me at the time. >> so there were other factors that launched the investigation were not george papadopoulos if ...

Factor in the launch of the investigation? >> well, not to my knowledge contempt radiancely. george papadopoulos was a name that was not on my radar scope at the time. and the first i knew about him and his role was when the plea bargain was announced. the short answer to your question is no, i was not a name known to me at the time. >> there's a lot you can't say, but there were other factors that launched the investigation, not just george papadopoulos? >> exactly. i think there were a number of factors that i think probably influenced or stimulated the fbi to initiate the investigation. i t...